By now, most regular drivers through Woodbridge have probably noticed the signs for at least one of the posted at four intersections throughout township.
of the license plates of cars going through lights that have turned red, earning the owner of the vehicle a $140 ticket they get in the mail.
Three of the red light sentinels are posted along Route 1 at Avenel Street, Green Street, and Gill Lane. According to the NJ Department of Transportation (DOT), there is a 30 day grace period after the cameras are given the go-ahead by the department, during which motorists who run a red light are given a warning in the mail, instead of the $140 ticket.
John J. White, a Colonia resident, had the misfortune of making a right from Gill Lane onto Route 1 on February 11. The camera at that intersection took the picture of his license plate, and eventually he got a ticket in the mail.
The ticket was a shock.
"I had no idea it was even there. I went to the town's website, thinking they have something about these red light cameras on their home page," White said. "I couldn't find anything."
But this isn't just a case of White not knowing that the red light cameras were installed at Gill Lane, a route he regularly uses.
The question is about when the cameras became operational, and when the 30 day grace period began. Earlier this year, DOT said the township was given the green light to begin on January 16 and ending February 15.
After doing some research about Woodbridge's red light cameras, White thought he was safe when he saw the Patch article.
"I thought, well, that's in the grace period. So this should be a warning ticket, not a ticket with a fine," he said.
This is where the story - and the dates - gets sticky.
White called the township, who told him the 30 days' warning period for the Gill Lane red light camera was up January 16.
White then made several Open Public Records Act (OPRA) requests from DOT to find out when the Gill Lane camera was activated. One OPRA document was a letter from American Traffic Solutions (ATS), the red light camera vendor who runs the program for Woodbridge.
In that letter to DOT, dated December 16, Charles Caliari of ATS wrote to confirm "the previous email approval" that DOT gave for the Gill Lane warning period to begin on December 17.
But in another OPRA email White received, Michael Moran, DOT Regional Engineer, gave Woodbridge Township his official approval - the final permit acceptance - on a letterhead dated December 20 that the Gill Lane red light camera installation was completed satisfactorily as of that date. That meant that the warning period should have begun December 20 and ended January 19.
So what gives with the different dates?
"This was a little different than the process we normally follow, but it's completely legit," said Joe Dee, DOT spokesman.
"From what I've been told, we were working with the vendor [ATS] on punch list items to make sure everything was just right. We were working with them for days, if not weeks, in a row. We were in constant contact with the vendor."
Because of that close contact, Dee said that ATS was told they were "good to go" to start the cameras, and thus the warning period.
"We said we'd be sending [ATS] a final permit acceptance and sending it to the town in the mail. [DOT said] let us know the day if you want to start the warning period before [the final permit acceptance], you are approved to do so," Dee said.
"Your permit is virtually is in the mail."
The date discrepancy is yet again different than about the Gill Lane red camera light grace period: "Approval for the third intersection with red light cameras, at Route 1 and Gill Lane, was given by the DOT on January 16. The grace period at that intersection ends on February 15."
White finds it all frustrating, and like many other red light camera critics, he thinks it's less about safety and more about the .
"My daughter and I read the town's website. I never saw anything about red light cameras posted. No matter who you are or where it is, you should get a warning the first time. Say someone makes an error like I did, now I know. If I do it again, I deserve the ticket. But to catch you off guard, that's baloney," White said.
"How does the public to know? If they don't want to put that information out, it's shame on them. It's not about the money, it's about how many hundreds or thousands of people are in the same boat as me."
White intends to contest the $140 fine in court.
"That's the bottom line. It is really unfair."
(Heck in one survey the vast majority of "violations" were RIGHT TURNS http://www.banthecams.org/attachments/1553_ATS%20Mukilteo%20survey.pdf, not dangerous RLR they keep blabbing that RLC are suppose to "stop". Funny part is the RLC DOESN'T STOP the CRASHES ANYHOW. SEE THIS PROPOGANDA PIECE of a RLV CRASH. NOTICE THE CRASH WASN'T STOP BY THE RLC! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkm2Dsi6t4k.) Most RLC tickets are for: 1. stopping on or just over the stop line. 2. non dangeorus right turns on red. 3. split second mistakes that longer ambers have been proven to stop like in Glassboro, NJ. http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/34/3418.asp FIGHT THE RLC FRAUD! Ban the CAMS! www.motorists.org www.banthecams.org and camerafraud on Facebook.
In virtually every case, using safer and longer yellow intervals will reduce violations by MORE than ticket cameras, and without the common result of actually raising the total accident rate that often happens with red light cameras. Cities that use cameras are callously willing to risk raising the accident rates in order to get the revenue they split between the city and the predatory camera vendor. If you care about safety and fairness, contact your state legislators to object to allowing the cameras for any reason. Contact your city officials to object to the use of the cameras for any reason. Vote out any officials who support the cameras and replace them with officials who favor safety over ticket revenue. See the science on our website. James C. Walker, National Motorists Association, www.motorists.org, Ann Arbor, MI
http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/refdata/rlr/ This is the part they are not complying to - Signal Timing Certification (The paragraph below is the important information to ask the town for.) *A certification by the municipal engineer that (a) the intersection or intersections in question have a minimum duration of the amber light at the traffic control signal of 3 seconds if at least 85% of the vehicular traffic approaching the signal is traveling at a speed of 25 mph or less; and (b) for each five mile increase in the speed of vehicular traffic referred to in subparagraph (a) of this paragraph above 30 mph this minimum duration of the amber light shall be increased by ½ second. * This part of the law is most likely NOT being complied with by any town in the RED LIGHT CAMERA program throughout the state of New Jersey. You can also ask for the same information from the NJDOT.
It is about the money.
As I said before from what I have learned, I believe almost ALL if not ALL of the Red Light Cameras throughout New Jersey are not following the Law as it is written. If you do not plead not guilty and contest your ticket this problem will never go away.
85085; and WHEREAS, under the terms and conditions of the contract citations paid (average per system per month) will be as follows: 1. Tier 1 1-100 citations paid per month $38.00 2. Tier 2 101-150 citations paid per month $28.00 3. Tier 3 151+ citations paid per month $18.00 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Municipal Council of the Township of Edison, Middlesex County, New Jersey, that the appropriate Township Officials are hereby authorized to execute a contract with Redflex Traffic Systems for a period of three (3) years and optional renewal for year four and year five.
However, the problem with this case seems to be, "How can the township issue a ticket for turning right on red, when it is legal to do so"? I would think this ticket could be fought, unless there are signs stating "no right turn on red". I don't think the township could tell from a photograph whether this person came to a complete stop before turning right.
Did you run the light?
http://redlightrobber.com/red/links_pdf/Misapplied-Physics-Red-Light-Cameras-Abstract.pdf
https://midatlantic.aaa.com/PGA/~/media/3B61BFC486874C43B78456B9D9EF303B.ashx NJDOT-Approved Red Light Camera Intersections, by municipality Newark City Essex McCarter Highway and Market Street Broad Street and Murray Street (photo enforcement live) Mulberry Street and Market Street McCarter Highway and Lafayette Street Broad Street and Market Street (photo enforcement live) Raymond Blvd, Market St & Prospect St. Raymond Blvd. & Raymond Plaza West (photo enforcement live) McCarter Highway and Edison Place Broad Street and Raymond Boulevard (photo enforcement live) McCarter Highway and South Street City of Linden Union RT US 1&9 and South Stiles Street RT US 1&9 and South Park Avenue RT27 and North Stiles Street Roselle Park Borough Union RT 28 (Westfield Avenue) and Locust Street Wayne Township Passaic Paterson-Hamburg Tnpk & Black Oak Ridge Rd. Jersey City Hudson RT US 1&9 /Tonnele Ave Hoboken City Hudson Willow Avenue and 14th Street Township of Morris Morris Rt. 510/Columbia Road & Normandy Pkwy. Piscataway Township Middlesex Stelton Road and Centennial Avenue, Brunswick Avenue and Stelton Road, Centennial Avenue & Old New Brunswick, S. Randolphville Road & Centennial Ave, Ethel Road and Stelton Road, Stelton Road and Washington Avenue Lawrence Township Mercer RT 1/Baker's Basin Road/Franklin Corner Edison Township Middlesex RT 1 and Plainfield Avenue, RT 1 and Prince Street, RT 1 and Wooding Avenue.
East Brunswick Township Middlesex RT 18 and Tices Lane City of New Brunswick Middlesex Easton Avenue (Co. Rt. 527) and Park Boulevard South Brunswick Township Middlesex RT 1 and Henderson Road Woodbridge Township Middlesex RT 1 and Avenel Street Township of Gloucester Camden Blackwood-Clementon Road (Co. Rt. 534) and Cherry wood Drive Blackwood-Clementon Road & Blenheim/Erial/New Brooklyn Road (Co. Rt. 706) Blackwood-Clementon Road & Little Gloucester Road (Co. Rt. 759) Blackwood-Clementon Rd & Millbridge Rd Cherry Hill Township Camden RT 70 and Springdale Road Borough of Stratford Camden White Horse Rd (Co. Rt. 673) & Berlin Road (Co. Rt. 702) Deptford Township Gloucester RT 41 and Deptford Center Road Monroe Township Gloucester RT 42 and RT US 322/Co. Rt. 536 Spur RT US 322 and Co. Rt. 612 Glassboro Borough Gloucester RT 47 and Dalton Drive Stafford Township Ocean RT US 9 and Cedar Bridge Road/Hilliard Boulevard RT 72 and Nautilus Drive RT 72 And Stafford Park Boulevard RT US 9 and Bay Avenue Brick Township Ocean RT 70 and Cedar Bridge Avenue RT 70 & Chambers Bridge Rd (Co. Rt. 549) (photo enforcement live) Chambers Bridge Road & Brick Blvd. (photo enforcement live)
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http://www.nj.com/hudson/voices/index.ssf/2012/04/letter_heres_flaw_in_red_light/5664/comments-2.html The site you are reading this message on now will not let me post all the info you need so go to the above web page. I hope this helps you. If you can figure out how to privately email me I will try to help you if you need more information. Good Luck. The prosecutor that held my case said she wished that attorneys would do what I did with obtaining this information for their clients.
There is a section in this paper about approach speeds as well. Declan has this paper.